Monday, November 16, 2009

Does desire has its weakness? Is satisfaction and fulfillment the remedial course for desire?

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Does desire has its weakness? Is satisfaction and fulfillment the remedial course for desire?
Bhudists might say that desire is bad. They supposedly desire to loose desire. If you want something you don't have it supposedly makes you sad so desire nothing. If you achieve this you supposedly end the cycle of rebirth and leave the torment we call life.





In practice Bhudists follow/trust this as strictly as Christians use the Bible to decide what they feel about Life. Like Richard Dawkin's says if Christians really believed in Heaven they wouldn't cry so much at funerals.





Other answers on right track. We desire what we do not have so fulfilment never gets rid of desire.





If we stopped desiring we would likely curl up and die.





Experiments with "Rat Utopia" showed that boy rats that were given all the food and lady rats that they could possibly want got depressed with the lack of challenge and starved themselves to death. My understanding is that people are much the same.





We need to ever set new challenges for ourselves or we go insane.





There is however an optimal ballance where our oportunities for sucess or comfort are ballanced with the risk of failure and opportunities to overcome challenge.





Usually people who have great risk of failure but little control of outcomes despair. People with no challenges get disinterested in life. People with challenges they can usually overcome and occasionaly fail at tend to be the happiest and most able.





People who fear failure can often get in the top ten in their field but the greatest heroes tend to love sucess more than they fear loosing.





At least that is what I learnt at uni.
Reply:desire makes you want things you can't have. if you get what you want, either it doesnt meet your standards and you are disappointed or you want something else. to satisfy oneself could be the remedial course, but how long dyu stay satisfied for? it is humans nature to want more.





thanks and have a great day =)
Reply:dear





desire is always a manifestation of power...desire generate wishes and man convert these wishes into purposes in order to reach fulfillment and gratification when target is hit.





"I wish...therefore I am"





love


Pluto
Reply:One of the 10 commandments is do not covet, covet and desire mean the same thing. It seems that this sort of satisfaction is linked with greed and greed is also mentioned as one of the 7 deadly sins. So desire and satisfaction (greed) both show weakness of character and the result would be like the giving tree.
Reply:isn't it said that humans are very greedy people? they are never satisfied and want more and more though they have no use for whatever it is they want. desire can never truly be overcome. satisfaction never comes. desire can never be controlled. desire is you needing or wanting something so much you'll do anything to get it. it's similar to obsession in more ways than one.
Reply:Unconsidered desire without foresight or consideration to cause and consequence ..





Contentment and peace is mans birthright and is the true state of living and being. Yes. It is the end objective and Nirvana. What path man chooses to travel upon to attain this peace determines not only his success but the clarity of his conscience upon reaching the destined end.





All needs, wishes, desires, life choices have a motivating factor. A need provoking man to embark upon a course of action or achievement. The thinking man reasons and is rarely wronged or misjudges, impetuousness lead to inevitable conflict or downfall ...





Success Prosperity Love and Peace To You ..TP
Reply:Yes, for weakness is the nature of desire. As long as the desire is in us we are slaves to what we desire.





Satisfaction and fulfilment are more than just the remedial course for desire; it's the death of desire. On the other hand, there is more joy in the desire than in the satisfaction of the desire.
Reply:desire without passion and will is the weakest... while satisfaction on the other hand is the end of one's journey...
Reply:Each person has desires. We all have the right to pursue those desires:





our right to do so ends at the tip of our nose.





It is in this caveat that most fail to appreciate and therefore become undesirables in society.
Reply:Desire, when properly expressed, is the impulse of our own nature to move toward balance. If I need blood sugar, I get the desire to eat. So, the goal of *any* desire is balance and well-being. if that is achieved, what appeared on the surface to be the object of desire need not be realized.
Reply:'The first four layers of the pyramid are what Maslow called "deficiency needs" or "D-needs:" the individual does not feel anything if they are met, but feels anxious if they are not met..... Needs beyond the D-needs are "growth needs," "being values," or "B-needs." When fulfilled, they do not go away; rather, they motivate further.'





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Mas...





There is no remedy for being a human with exception of becoming inhuman. That is a remedy I refuse to take.
Reply:Of course.


Desire, need, the requirement of fulfilment etc - makes the "wanter" weak in the hands of those who claim to satisfy the need.Yet often fail - disappoint - and even disgust.


Have a good day yourself.
Reply:Yes no doubt in it. How to achieve it? That is the 1000$ Q.


Do meditation for 10 to 15 Min's. Then wright down all the desires and Analise with out this desire can't I live? If yes have it in a separate list.Otherwise separate those.Now once again meditate and make a imprint strongly that I need not have this desires. For the essential desires also one more question you put. Whether we have physical, mental %26amp; economical capability to full fill the desire. If no simply do it following the privious one. Also we should analyse the after effect and when it is harmfull either for the self or for others even in future that also to be done as earlier. Then we wll have very few only and we can carry out with proper plan.


Our mind will function in satisfaction.


Lord Buddha's Great Philosophy is that the root cause of all problems is desires only. They are immoral desires.
Reply:If you think so, that's good enough for me.
Reply:full satisfaction will no doubts, kill the desire... the problem is that desire has more children then satisfaction!
Reply:Seems to me that the human tendancy is to desire yet again after satisfaction and fulfillment have come to end the desire.


I'd say it's more like satisfaction and fulfillment don't do their job very well, if they're meant to destroy desire. Desire just lives on, whether it targets something else or keeps on the same path.





I don't understand the remedial course metaphor... o.0''

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